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PostSubject: Re: Bill333's System   Wed Jan 10, 2018 8:36 am

Hi Sonic,

Doing better now. But it's been a rough couple of weeks, as you can see.
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PostSubject: Re: Bill333's System   Thu Jan 11, 2018 11:28 pm

Hi Bill,

I was shocked and sorry to hear about your unfortunate event. I hope you guys can recover quickly, and I'm relieved to hear that you have good insurance. I am hopeful that things can return to better-than-new for you!


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PostSubject: Re: Bill333's System   Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:36 am


Hello Bill333

Sonic is most happy that your cat has rescued. Wishing you, Elizabeth and cat a smooth path to recovery.

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PostSubject: Re: Bill333's System   Tue Feb 27, 2018 9:29 am

It's been a couple of months since the fire, and we are now living in a temporary house while our home gets rebuilt.  Here's what the new listening room looks like:



I'm using my 60's on some nice platforms that Michael sent me, with the Audolici and the Magnavox.  My first Audolici was damaged in the fire, but I bought Michael's extra one with the silver faceplate. Mostly because I just don't want to be without one.  

I have to say that I am love, love, loving the Audolici.  Being able to tune recordings in with it has really changed my whole relationship with music and tuning.  It seems like no matter what the album, if I spend some time getting the blocks right, I am rewarded with great music.  Last night was a good example.  Michael picked out some music for me when we were at the second hand store in Las Vegas and I had mostly forgotten about it, until I saw a CD I didn't recognize in the pile I rescued from the old house.  The album was 'Aha Shake Heartbreak' by  Kings Of Leon.  I had never heard of them but thought it might be a good exercise in tuning to put on a completely strange piece of music and see what I could do with it.



Well, I didn't like it.  It sounded like some kind of punk band with the vocals in a language I couldn't understand.  I left it on repeat and went downstairs to do some cooking.  I came back an hour later and took a stab at tuning it in.  Wow!  What a difference!  Now I could hear the beauty of the instruments, and the vocals, while still unintelligible, now seemed whimsical rather than annoying.  I sat down and ended up listening all the way through.  Smile

For a second act, I pulled out a more familiar piece of music, Soul Hits Of The 70s, volume 13.  



Again, it took 10 or 15 minutes to tune it in, but the results were gorgeous.  I listened all the way through and then some, in a very relaxed state.  Even songs that I used to fast forward through were musically involving in this well-tuned system.  I'm looking forward to seeing what I can tune in tonight.  Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Bill333's System   Wed Feb 28, 2018 12:27 am



Good to hear from you Bill333 cheers -- especially that you got a temporary stability and a system to give you music at this troubled time.

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PostSubject: Re: Bill333's System   Wed Feb 28, 2018 12:44 am

Looks pretty cool Bill Cool

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PostSubject: Re: Bill333's System   Tue Mar 06, 2018 7:57 am

A quick update on my work with the system.  I finally bought a pair of wire strippers and started the process of cutting the wires down to a custom length that won't have the wires laying on the carpet.  But before I actually cut the wires down, I need to make sure the speakers are in their optimal positions.  So I've been doing some experiments with speaker positioning that are really making it clear how important good speaker position is.  The better positions bring a clarity and organization to the soundstage which I've really been missing.  I've started my experiments with speaker positioning last weekend, and haven't finished yet due to being so busy with work and house related projects but I think another few hours will do it.  And then I've got some experiments with RoomTune pillows in mind...

I may not have my old rooms, but there's no reason I can't improve my tuning skills.  Cool
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PostSubject: Re: Bill333's System   Tue Mar 06, 2018 8:08 pm

You have certainly been reborn Bill Exclamation

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PostSubject: Re: Bill333's System   Sun Mar 25, 2018 9:10 am

Latest news...

I brought the Altmann DAC and associated cabling home from the restoration company's warehouse and finally got up the courage to hook it up.  It's broken and there is no way to repair it.  The era of the Altmann DAC is over.  Sad

The Altmann was special - both for its sound quality and its effect on me.  Nearly all of the most goosebump-raising, thrilling listening experiences and most of the meditative reverie experiences I've had were with the Altmann.  As much as I respect the Magnavox and use it as a reference, it has never (or very rarely) affected me in these ways.  Are there other DACs that can provide these experiences?  I think so, but I need to find them.  In the coming months I'll be experimenting with some different sources, so we'll see how that goes.

On a more positive note, my Technics RS-1500 tape deck has finally been sent out to J-Corder for repair and upgrading.  Jeff put together this picture to show me what the deck would look like with a silver paint job and the blue ATR MasterTape reels.  I think it looks beautiful - what do you think?

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PostSubject: Re: Bill333's System   Mon Mar 26, 2018 12:51 am

The Technics silver look has always been an eye candy tease to me. The blue/silver combo is gorgeous !

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PostSubject: Re: Bill333's System   Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:29 am

It's been a month since I last posted, and there's been a lot going on.  Another AXPONA has come and gone, and although I didn't find much good sound at the show I did have a chance to hear a tweak I've been curious about for a while.  There was a sale on them at the show, so I bought enough to do my entire room.  Very Happy


Bybee iQSE Review



The iQSE is the 'i' version of the Quantum Signal Enhancer.  The device claims to influence nearby circuits and air molecules through spintronics.  I don't have any knowledge about spin electronics, other than that it is a legitimate area of scientific research which is mostly taking place in university labs.  By appearance, the iQSE is a small wooden block about 2" by 5" and 1/4" thick with a thin layer of a black rubbery substance on the back.

My initial intention with the iQSE's was to use them in a room treatment system which is rumored on the internet to cause the soundstage to expand, and "a beautiful listening experience where all the walls, floor and ceiling virtually disappear."  This is the diagram the Bybee company provides for doing this:



So how did this work?  I have to say that I have not been able to make the walls, floor and ceiling virtually disappear.  The crickets on the Sun King track from Abbey Road are exhibiting the same behavior they did before I put the iQSE's up - they bunch up at the right wall for a few seconds, proceed across the soundstage in a reasonable arc, and then bunch up at the left wall for several seconds before fading out.  

So what were the benefits, if any?  This is how I explained it to Michael when I called him after first putting them up:



It was as if I had picked up a lamp, rubbed it, and a genie came out and asked me for my wish. I said, "I want all the clarity, all the detail, and all the tone in the entire world, and I want it in my system right now!" The genie says, "your wish is granted" and that's what happened.

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PostSubject: Re: Bill333's System   Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:36 am


Greetings Bill333 cheers

Always to good to hear from you Exclamation

The genie said "your wish is granted" and that's what happened --  you got the clarity, detail and tone?

Genie no lie to you, gave you your wish? Please describe more  Exclamation

Sonic means if indeed this is the case, tone is a higher priority compared to soundstage. Who wants to a hear the BPO at full width and dimensionality from an audio system but with instruments sounding like kazoos?

OTOH, even a mono recording of the same orchestra with the right tone is infinitely more realistic and enjoyable....

For those Bybee wood pieces at ear-level, how did you mount them?

I wonder what Mr Green says...Question  

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PostSubject: Re: Bill333's System   Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:02 pm

Sonic said

"I wonder what Mr Green says...?"

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It's good timing, is what I say. I've been working on some smaller room adjusters to send to Tj, so I've been putting things up on the SAM and also the front wall, and a few other places. Unfortunately when I talked with Bill I was on my 3rd day without sleep, so I didn't do much more than have Bill do a couple of run throughs for me. Where I left it was "Play and have fun" Sleep  then I was off to La La Land counting sheep and small wall devices.

I'm not really an impressions guy, but more of an empirical scientist. As much as I enjoy the excitement level when someone discovers a new sound for them (even with my stuff), my mind is always thinking "where's the trade off".

I did however put on Abbey Road the next day. The first run through the crickets were off to the right several feet outside of my place. It felt like I was sitting on the edge (a few feet back) of a pond with frogs and crickets all around me. Then I could start hearing the pan through the stage, the stop, and then the continuing out the left side of the stage. The next run through became more dramatic and spatial, and the listen an hour later was a different story altogether, with the pond reaching way behind my seating (almost like there was a pond I was on the edge of and another section of the pond behind me), with a sound similar to what I described a few years ago in my space, but with a little less stretching side to side but more of me being in the middle of the space. Lately my front to back has been as big as my side to side.

To be absolutely honest, I think my reaction to what Bill was finding was somewhat marginalized because I have been in the middle of an almost headphone-ish love affair with my setup lately, and I'm not sure I was completely able to separate what I have been experiencing vs what Bill was. But, I'm excited about the ByBee for Bill as we have been finding, and maybe even dialing in on, Bill's sound.

Here's where I'm at. Bill heard something in the Altmann, Hynes, American Monitor, Audolici and now the ByBee (if this proves the test of time) that is getting him to a more "Mastering" position over his sound. I think it's been a process for him that has taking him from extreme to extreme and now becoming more predictable. That is a major step up from when we first met. Bill's skill level has grown so much that he's not even remotely the same listener. Thinking back in my mind, the only regret that I have had for Bill is that he got rid of the Quads. I thought there was something there that was Bill and it would have been interesting for him to have pulled them out every once in a while. However the entrance of the American Monitor brings a lot of this back. I know, two different designs altogether, but that's how I look at Bill's sound and style.

I have enjoyed my relationship with Bill and Elizabeth so much I can't even begin to express, they're my family! And being my family I enjoy every word and impression they bring home with them from the shows or from their listening experiences at home. The ByBee is another one of these experiences I get to enjoy through the mind and ears of Bill. Could they be that Genie? For now they certainly are. Could they be part of the long term mix? That would be pretty smoken if you ask me.

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PostSubject: Re: Bill333's System   Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:35 am



Greetings Michael

A good comment. I too love following Bill333's tuning/listening path and learning from him.

You are developing small room adjusters?

Could you describe what these are or PM Sonic if you prefer? They might be what I need given for that next mile given how my room/system is homing in to the sound Sonic wants.

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PostSubject: Re: Bill333's System   Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:41 pm

Hi Sonic

Yep, pretty exciting times after Bill does the AXPONA. I'm looking forward to more of his findings.

On my goodies, I'll have more to say after Andy's visit here the 21-25.

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