What tuning material to use and where ??

Hello Michael and Coop,

My dilemma is my room is a very small spare bedroom that also doubles as music storage and computer desk area.

My two channel audio system consists of a JPauls Rack, Luxman 505ux integrated amp, Teac SACD player, Realistic vintage receiver as a tuner, and EPOS Elan 15 speakers.

I wanted to add an SVS sealed subwoofer but have been told subs can be especially bad in small rooms especially if the room is not set up optimally in the 1st place (treatments and speaker placement).

I had checked with "one of the other guys" (and very expensive)  a year ago maybe and seeing the pictures he thought the room was even tight and told me things I'm unwilling to do such as put a treatment panel right in front of the record storage cubes.

I am sending 4 pictures in hopes you can tell me what will fit and what you'd suggest and whether then adding a sub would be worth it. Who knows might even be worth to put a pillow in 1 or 2 cubes of each Kallax storage unit...?   But I will leave up to you, based on my photos, to tell me what you think based on the photos....and if the room is "tuneable" in its current state.

In response to Coop's question on my email--yes the door to the room--looking to exit--the top left corner is 90 degree rt angle but the upper rt corner angle is much more--or gentle as you termed it.

I'm fairly happy with the sound now but I know with so many hard surfaces in the room it can be better.

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Pete Kutheis
Killeen, TX

Hi Pete

Welcome to TuneLand

I took the liberty of posting your pictures.

Let me take a look at these and see what's up.

Hi Pete

Take a look at this.



This is 3 CornerTunes
6 EchoTunes
1 RTXLT (over the door)

You might want 2 RTD2 Ceiling Tunes to go in the 3rds.

If you wanted to spend more you could move up to the PZC's. Here are the pages RT Pillows-PZC's.

https://tuneland.forumotion.com/t57-roomtune-acoustical-treatment

https://tuneland.forumotion.com/t301-roomtune-deluxe

https://tuneland.forumotion.com/t243-roomtune-rtd2-roomtune-deluxe-ll

https://tuneland.forumotion.com/t70-rt-pzc-acoustical-treatment

Let Harold know and we'll get started on the acoustical part. As far as the side covers lets see how things sound after the tunes are up and then if you want we can custom build some tunes for those areas.

One last thing, also think about tuning up the components with LTR Blocks. And maybe even Speaker Platforms. Will give you a couple of notes on the bottom end and more body.

https://tuneland.forumotion.com/t213-mga-tuning-blocks

https://tuneland.forumotion.com/t71-mga-platforms-racks-and-amp-stands

have fun

That looks good; I will contact Harold for pricing and purchasing options.

The ceiling tune mentioned also install by push pin ?

Hi Pete

The CeilingTunes are put up with Dry-wall screws. However you can use the EchoTune on the ceiling as well with push pins, so if that is easier for you, your good to go.

have fun with your system, let me know if there is anything else you want to explore

Harold will take good care of you.

One further question Michael. I think the tunes go across seams and not flush correct--for example in photos in Toledo's system the tunes are installed across angles and not sitting flush into a seam.....correct ? In other words a tune placed at a wall ceiling junction..it would be pinned at ceiling and wall and there'd be a gap underneath the pillow ?? Is that right. I want to make sure I put them up correctly !

Michael Green wrote:

Hi Pete

The CeilingTunes are put up with Dry-wall screws. However you can use the EchoTune on the ceiling as well with push pins, so if that is easier for you, your good to go.

have fun with your system, let me know if there is anything else you want to explore

Harold will take good care of you.

Hi Pete

I'll walk you through the placement and use. I see someplaces I would start with them across the seams and some flat.

Like I said we'll walk through this as you are puting them up.

Installed 12 room tunes this evening. It seems to have tamed down the bouncing reflections I was getting right side of room. The room doesn't seem as lively. Not sure that is good or bad yet. Will know tomorrow evening when I can crank the volume.

Great White on the table.  I'll give a holler if I need anything.

Thanks for the update Pete. If you get a chance take some more pics.

Greetings Pete

Welcome to Tuneland!

What are the loudspeakers on either side of your computer screen? Nice vintage look.

What is your turntable and cartridge?

Sonic

Sonic,

The Advents at my desk area or Advent Smallers and exude a warm sound that at times I like better than the EPOS Elans that are for the main listening spot.
Turntable is a Pro-Ject Debut Carbon ---running a Denon DL103 moving coil cart with it.

Michael---will do some photos after a bit......

Sonic.beaver wrote:

.......
What are the loudspeakers on either side of your computer screen? Nice vintage look.
What is your turntable and cartridge?

Sonic

Michael Green wrote:

Thanks for the update Pete. If you get a chance take some more pics.

After several listening sessions now with the tunes and the 2 SVS sealed subwoofers I've come to the conclusion right side room reflection is tamed.  The bass is tighter and there is deep bass on lots of LPs that was not present before. Mostly the sound has improved.  I have noted on some meh mixes such as Foo Fighters latest---the who cares mix (practically everything mixed center) practically puts me to sleep.  Older classic rock records mixed well seem best.

Here they are:

Thanks -- Advent speakers and Denon 103 are nice

The vintage Advent sound holds a special place in my ears as well. I've often thought if I was going to build vintage systems Avent would be on the list.


Nice to see them on TuneLand.